Oakland Crime Stats Update, April 2010

A couple people have asked me recently why I haven’t been posting crime numbers lately. I don’t have a super good reason, I guess. I don’t like to post year on year comparisons early in the year because the sample is so small that any percent change is basically meaningless. However, seeing as it is now April…

Anyway, here you go. Part I crimes reported through April 4th, 2010. All figures come from the Oakland Police Department’s weekly crime report (PDF).

April 2010 Oakland Crime Stats

So, there you go.

71 thoughts on “Oakland Crime Stats Update, April 2010

  1. Mike Hardy

    Yeah, gotta say, that looks like a pretty good report. The comparisons with “Oakland Past” are wide enough now that it probably makes sense to start comparing more against other major metro areas to see if we’re actually good, or just better. Definitely looks better, at least. That’s something

  2. One Oakland Native

    Having been a resident of a fairly decent neighborhood of Oakland for decades, I’m sorry to say that I’ve come to the not-very-tentative conclusion that this data has been massaged, especially the robbery category. I’ve compared actual reports from victims, direct reports from PSOs attending NCPC meetings, the OPD weekly crime reports, and the crimewatch site downloadable reports. There is noticeable inconsistency between sources.
    One issue I have with the weekly crime reports is format. It varies, and remains non-transparent for coding crimes, instead of just saying what type of crime was committed. Dates, times, and even the nature of the crime vary from downloaded reports compared to interviews with victims. It’s also terribly important to acknowledge that these are ONLY “reported” crimes, which is to say that they were formally written up–not even a certainty when OPD comes to the scene. Many crimes go unreported.

    My personal experience is that the crime of robbery in my neighborhood of beat 17Y has increased dramatically in the past year, an opinion recently voiced by a patrol officer who came out to take a report from a neighbor who was assaulted last week.

    Perhaps there are 320 OPD officers assigned to patrol, but this is divided by 2 or 3 due to shifts and days off, and then by the 57 or so beats in Oakland, which leaves MAYBE one squad car, possibly carrying two officers, patrolling probably several beats at any one time. A beat likely contains and area of about 100 square blocks, and in the ordinary (non-hills) neighborhoods, more than 10,000 people.

    To say that we have an understaffed police department is a gross understatement. Oakland is already damaged as a result of necessary budget cuts, but soon we’ll be not just broke, but broken.

  3. Brad

    Len, I’d guess not. Nor are the crimes that go uninvestigated because the callers can’t even get through. Like a few months ago when I saw a stolen car being driven down the street, window smashed and car alarm blaring, and I called OPD three or four times and no one even picked up.

  4. Mike Hardy

    Interesting Brad – that makes me think of a very effective “crime improvement” strategy. Clearly if we reduce the number of people answering the phone, crime will improve because the statistics will all look better!

    This strategy could probably be applied to the budget problems as well, the reports about it are horrible frankly, and I’d rather see less of them.

    I’ll get my mayoral candidacy website up shortly, please support my innovative safety and fiscal platform

    Cheers!

  5. Andy K

    The numbers look good. But, you know what they say about statistics…

    Are they consistent with how they measure these crimes? Can’t change how things like murder, man slaughter, rape, are measured, but the other crimes, well, reporting could be fudged.

  6. Ralph

    OON, with the possible exception of murder, crime is underreported every year and in every city. But on positive side, whether real or not it does give the impression that the city is not as gritty as projected/perceived.

  7. len raphael

    is anyone here active in the NCPC’s at the city wide level? wonder if the anecdotal data is on robbery, car theft and assaults is consistent with the decline shown by opd’s stats.

  8. OaklandAdvocate

    I wish we can just limit the parolees being sent to Oakland, or have none at all here. I know for a fact that a lot of violence comes from them.

  9. livegreen

    There’s been a lot of talk recently at City Counsel level about Public Safety having to be cut because it’s such a large % of the City’s GPF. The challenge is how to do that while negotiating with the OPOA. If they don’t agree to cut salaries & benefits & choose to negotiate hard, then we lose Officers, M-Y funding gets cut and we lose even more Officers. Then crime will gradually start to go back up.

    It’s a real conundrum, a real Catch-22. I hope the OPOA is willing to be somewhat flexible. The City’s budget problems and Crime are not good for either Citizens or Officers. I wonder: do both our CC & OPOA know this, and are both willing to find a solution? Or is everybody going to pretend they come first and play hard-ass?

  10. len raphael

    LG, so much posturing, mostly by the cc and mayor’s office. the opoa knows that if they make relatively minor concessions on compensation, city council won’t take the many risks and certain problems of laying off cops.council will play chicken with them, announce layoffs just before november ballot parcel tax, but ain’t gonna do it even when the parcel tax fails.

  11. Livegreen

    Re youth out late on the Streets and Crime Prevention I thought this post from PSA3 list serve about apprehending a crime in progress might b of interest:

    Message from Captain Figueroa

    All: We had a great arrest yesterday– it involves robbery suspects.
    Here are the details:

    On April 15, 2010 at approximately 6:30 P.M., Officer F. Rojas was
    traveling in the 2700 block of Foothill Blvd. when he saw a group of
    four juveniles. Officer Rojas then saw the group of juveniles surround
    an adult Oakland resident and attempt to rob him.

    Officer Rojas directed responding units to the location of the attempted
    robbery in progress. Additional officers arrived and detained the four
    juveniles. The victim identified the four juveniles as the group who
    had just tried to rob him.

    As officers were in the 2700 block of Foothill completing paperwork,
    they were approached and told by a second victim that the four juveniles
    had robbed him too in the 3100 block of E27th Street at 5:50 P.M. The
    second victim also identified the four juveniles.

    A third person came and told officers that at 6:20 PM he was in the 1800
    block of 28th Avenue when the four juveniles attempted to rob him. The
    four juveniles were again identified as the suspects.

    Captain Paul Figueroa

  12. Ralph

    I wish there were an officer around yestersday when two perps were beating the carpa out a man and his son on Telegraph.

  13. Livegreen

    Robbery was not the reason motive. There is a very good chance this was a hate crime, and it should at least b investigated…

  14. Steve Lowe

    Maybe more Ambassadors would help get the eyes and ears out on the street via some sort of twitter-based communication effort. In England, there’s a bunch of cameras and audio equipment placed around pubs so that whenever the excitement level hits a peak, the fuzz pop on oven to calm things down. More technical innovation seems like the only way out of this dilemma, as we’ll never have enough dough to pay for manned patrols trained to take care of all the problems we have thoughout this city. A city that, unlike SF, SJ or anywhere else around here, has had its richest neighborhood (Piedmont, in case you were under the mysterioso illusion that the folks there actually have a right to claim sanctuary from the madding crowd) removed from paying its fair share for all the crime we poor hoi polloi must endure.

  15. Livegreen

    Some neighborhoods in Oakland have cameras with views around the merchant areas. Maybe DT should consider too…

  16. Ralph

    I think the Ambassadors do a fairly good job. They can’t be everywhere but they are in good communication with each other. Further, I believe merchants have a way of contacting them.

    LG, I have been wondering about the cameras. I am wondering if any of the cameras at surrounding businesses caught the activity. But I feel confident that the OPD are obtaining that material. I would be in favor of more cameras. (This would also help support my claim regarding the hipsters and their dirty deeds.)

    Len, 18th and Telegraph.

  17. len raphael

    Steve, blaming Piedmont is odd. Their total general fund is only 20Mill compared to our general fund deficit of +100Mill.

    http://www.ci.piedmont.ca.us/finance/budget/09-10/final.pdf

    btw, their budget reporting is written in plain english.

    our reports read like they were written by people trying to justify their high salaries.

    btw, the average house sold for 1.3Mill last year there. Their property tax revenue, though only 9Mill, is projected to increase this year. Is there any section of Oakland where that will happen this year? Maybe Crocker Highlands. (depends what CT’s mom’s house sells for.)

  18. We Fight Blight

    Just wondering if anyone out there really believes Oakland needs fewer police or whether anyone believes Oakland has enough police. Two people get brutally attacked without provocation in downtown Oakland in the middle of the day and yet there isn’t enough of a police presence to either stop the attack or track the thugs down. Makes the average Joe feel really safe and want to come to Oakland to spend money, recreate, live or otherwise just hang out. You gotta be kidding me. Where the f–ing hell are the priorities for this City? The choice articulated by the City Council–pay more taxes or we cut public safety–is a false choice. Why not put on the ballot measures to repeal voter mandated programs for kids and libraries so we can divert more funds to public safety? Every City Councilmember and Mayor Dellums whines about not having enough discretionary funds to address Oakland’s priorities. So they want to solve the problem by asking for more money, rather than repealing voter mandated programs. Come on people. Why is this so difficult?

  19. Ralph

    Len, had the assessor done his job properly last year we would probably more than likely have experienced an uptick in assessed value this year. Last year, many properties were over assessed. But some people who should have completed an informal review did not, I assume the assessed value for those properties will come down. Ron Thomsen is a joke!

  20. len raphael

    The media went out of their way to emphasize the injured dad was visiting from SF.
    I think i have internalized the voice of Nav.

    the mantra that higher population density = more eyes on the street = lower crime in Oakland is a bunch of baloney.

    this latest incident hasn’t done anything to change my mind. You can twitter and send cell phone videos till your thumbs fall off but street level density won’t help if there ain’t enough cops or citizen heros to silence the violence.

    -len raphael

  21. len raphael

    Ralph, are you saying that the county assessor should have taken the temporary prop 13 market write downs a year ago, given property owners some relief and justice, and then this year reversed some of them to reflect “recovering” values?

    Oakland and Alameda County’s budget didlers sb grateful for that delay, even though thousands of owners small and big suffered for not owing in Contra Costa where the downward adjustments were done promptly. (hmm, can you do class action suits against govts? or was that why MLee said everyone had to file their own Y refund claim?)

    Other than an increase in the rock bottom prices for repo’s in East and West Oakland, as far as i can tell values have dropped in pricier areas of town because of the increasing interest rates and loan to value requirements of mortgages for anything other than single fam homes <720k . when the fed govt subsidies for those <720k homes go away over the next 6 months, and interest rates for all real estate go up over 6.5% Oakland real estate valuations of all kinds will drop like a rock again.

    Also can't blame assessor that the drop in commercial real estate lagged a couple of years behind residential.

    So if our esteemed leaders are playing the fiscal shell game, while waiting for real estate tax revenues to dramatically increase, they've been hanging in Oaksterdam too much.

    (btw, there is about a one year delay after a downward assessment is approved, until a refund check is mailed. meanwhile the property owner has to continue paying all assessed taxes as due, without offset for approved refunds.)

    -ret

  22. len raphael

    someone indulge an old timer like me, because i do not recall what was said about our mayor’s pension vesting schedule.

    (v, any hope of getting a good search function on this site? is there a way to use google search for just this url?)

  23. Ken

    oakland needs more bernie goetz and police. and more jobs for regular joes. commercial real estate: try growing pot in all those, hire a few people. instead of empty spaces gathering dust. insane?

  24. Ralph

    Len, yes. I have an idea of what the assessor is trying to do, but I think this would have been a good time to go with the Big Bath. Plus, this two year time period for a formal appeal makes no sense. Is this due to backlog? It really makes one question the competency and efficiency of our elected officials. Are they really working for us?

    I will leave the commercial alone. But Ron is a tool and needs to be replaced with competent leadership.

  25. Navigator

    We Fight Blight,

    Len is right. The SF media is using this as a SF resident coming to Oakland to “shop” and then being attacked by “Oakland” thugs. It’s interesting that when an 83 year old man was viciously beaten while waiting for muni we didn’t hear a thing until the poor man died one month later. Also, not a word from Gavin Newsome.

    I guess in Oakland we need to be held to a higher standard. It was just a matter of time until something happened in Uptown and then it would be used as a way to scare people about coming to Oakland. They couldn’t have asked for a better scenario. A “San Francisco” man beaten, virtually under the Fox “Oakland” marquee.

    There is no way you can stop stuff like this from happening in large cities like Oakland or San Francisco. It’s just that when it happens in Oakland, the entire city gets broad brushed and it gets used as an economic weapon against the progress made in this city in recent years.

    Having said that, we need to make sure that Oakland is as safe as possible. The answer isn’t MORE police which would bankrupt this city. The answer is using our nearly 800 officers more wisely by having foot patrols and more patrol officers on the streets.

  26. Livegreen

    I agree with all said. The attack is being used to scapegoat O. But we do need more Police, the question is how can we afford them? If they were paid less (but still great salaries) we could afford more. ESP as nobody else is hiring and Vallejo is laying people off.

    It would b safer for the City, the citizens AND the Officers. But how do we get there?

  27. Chris Kidd

    Downtown LA has their own BID and they use the funds to hire security personnel who ride around downtown on bicycles. They don’t wear police-like uniforns, but instead have brightly colored windbreakers. This makes them extremely recognizable and a good presence on the street. I can’t remember if downtown has its own BID, but they should look at LA’s model and try to learn from it. The change in downtown LA over the last 5 years between the adaptive reuse ordinance, the downtown artwalk, the establishment of gallery row, and the street presence of friendly security personnel is truly staggering.

  28. Livegreen

    Len, Reusing old buildings for new uses (different from originally intended). Wikipedia has a good summary and some great pictures. If dine right it would certainly have the potential to remake Oakland DT attractive.

    In the meantime the other efforts Chris mentions LA is undertaking should offer some lessons. If we don’t have enough Officers who can b maintained DT maybe merchants would b willing to form a BID and have cycling, visible Security Guards?

  29. Ralph

    For the record, there is a benefit district in downtown oakland. Those blue and orange jacket people walking and biking the downtown and uptown area are the ambassadors. They provide eyes on the street. They have a working relationship with the OPD. However, not all business contribute to the support of the Ambassadors program which results in some odd boundaries. For example, at one point the eastside of Telegraph was inside the boundary while the westside fell outside the boundary. This may have changed.

    Now, neither OPD nor the ambassadors can provide coverage for all blocks all the time. If an officer is either walking or on bike at Harrison & Grand, there is no guarantee that the officer will make it back to an incident on Telegraph and 18th to catch the perp. I suspect most perps works with a timeclock.

    If we can bring down the rate of crime in east and west Oakland we may be able to deploy more cops to downtown. Right now, it does not appear that there is a huge OPD showing in downtown.

  30. Livegreen

    Well either OPD wasn’t called or they weren’t close enough to apprehend perps who were on foot. In this case there was a lag somewhere…

  31. Ralph

    LG, the owner of the bookstore across the street called 911 while the event was in progress. I don’t know how long she was on the phone, but she may have been on the phone long enough to report a beating in progress and give a location, when she turned her head to see if the boys were still beating the man, they were gone.

    It is silly to assume that because the perps were on foot that OPD could have apprehended and detained them because they were in cars. OPD essentially needs to arrive while the beatdown is in progress to have a realistic chance of catching perps who are on foot. Given the openness of 18th and Telegraph, the perps could have been in the wind within minutes.

  32. Livegreen

    I realize the description at the time might not have been enough, and the kids could have had a car nearby (though doubtful). But IF a priority of OPD is to keep DT safe at least during business and theater hours then at least one car should have been available to respond quickly, and hopefully(?) other cars driving to locate the perps in the direction they were last seen going.

    Given the importance of DT to O’s businesses, living, and reputation, if OPD can’t keep DT safe then it can’t keep anywhere safe. Then forget about it’s reputation changing anytime soon.

    Last time I checked the murder count was chasing last years. We might already have hit a plateau…Unless our politicos start supporting the new Chief, start playing hardball with the unions and finding money for more Officers, I’m going to fall back to my previous cynicism under Tucker.

    To b clear the problem is not just DT. The victims never should have followed the perp around, and they should have called OPD. Also elsewhere in the City a young man was shot by his girlfriend. What’s the deal with all the illigal guns in this City? Does CA have any intelligence and coop with Nevada to investigate and arrest the smugglers? WTF?

  33. Ralph

    LG, I see this incident has hit a nerve. Despite your last paragraph, someone might be inclined to label you as one who is more concerned about downtown than the neighborhoods. You are essentially advocating for more than a few cars to patrol the downtown.

    For the most part, the Ambassadors have been extremely effective. Like I said, because mix of business owners currently contributing to the program, the west side of Telegraph is not covered. The change on B-way since the Ambassador program has been good for DTO. Hopefully, this event will stir other businesses to participate in the program and expand its coverage.

    This event may in fact result in an unnatural death, but keep in mind most murders occur between people who have some association with each other. I know people think the number of murders is troublesome but that has not stopped investment in downtown Baltimore and in downtown DC. Personally, I think the growing number of pot stores is a bigger problem.

  34. Livegreen

    No Ralph, it’s the overall crime rate in town that bothers me. It’s the message that we can’t even protect people in the heart of the city where we want new companies and residents to move to that shows how far we need to go. It’s simply representative of the challenges all over the city. To reinforce that, last time I heard we had 1 City Employee working with businesses to do BIDs and NW, and 1 working in the Nuisance Dept.

    And politicians sitting on their ass saying because we’ve had some declines in 1+ year all is ok. And that we have so few police compared to East Coast cities (&they’re so expensive) that we almost never see them patolling as an act of prevention. They always seem to b playing catch-up after the fact.

    Yes we’ve had some modest declines, and yes we get unfair press. But not enough is being done by our City leaders and until it is it’s going to b very difficult attracting new businesses here and higher amounts of medium income citizens. Both being essential to pay the taxes to fund Oakland’s infrastructure, employ citizens of all economic backgrounds, and pay for services to both middle income and poor alike.

  35. Ralph

    LG, to rephrase, this crime is the straw. I believe the numbers above point to a decline in crime. Still, absent a program to keep crime in check and a bump in arrest rate, like you, I do not put a lot of stock in year to year decline.

    I think what will help is increasing the downtown density. Of course, this also means that someone needs to convince the people at OHA that height is a good thing.

    I am going to disagree with you on crime being a deterrent to attracting new middle income residents. Citywalk despite its location was doing a brisk business signing up buyers. People may not like JB but he had a vision to attract new middle income people to downtown Oakland and it was working. More eyes on the street and more things to do will keep the crime down.

    The city screwed the pooch when it came to layoffs. It was a complete number games, but I lay part of the blame with the unions. The city should have identified the core service that they need to keep the lights on and the ones that they need to continue to grow and go from there.

  36. Livegreen

    Ralph, On the one point, there are still a lot of vacant condos and projects unfinished. In a recession, given it’s lower prices, O would b attracting more residents from SF to DT if it weren’t for crime. JB made the beginning of progress but we need more or we’ll just plateau and it will have been a temporary blip of activity.

  37. Ralph

    LG, more people are making the switch. Having an A&E district helps. Which projects are you referring to as being unfinished? I know Cathedral is “unfinished” but they are also doing some selling. The Ellington is selling. Downtown, JLS, and Uptown rentals are strong.

    This is what we have with a small A&E district. Imagine how many more people would be flocking to our beaches if we had more. SF lives on its reputation of being an adult playground and its density. The fact that it has a thriving gang culture is overlooked. Young people are coming to Oakland because we are finally beginning to offer a viable alternative to SF, we need to continue to build on it.

  38. Livegreen

    Ralph, City Walk. See V’s previous post. Update linked today in ABO News section. Note all the dropped office projects out there. But you make a good point about JLS and thanks for the update on the other projects. Not all is negative, there are good projects still moving forwards.

  39. Ralph

    LG, on Citywalk, I should have said before its collapse, it did a brisk business signing up buyers and this was in 2006 and 2007. Clearly crime was not stopping people from buying. If the new owners are able to make the transformation to rentals, I suspect it will continue to do well.

    Len, downtown rents for newer, well constructed residential units is good. Oakland has a good stock of cheap residential units which keeps the averages down.

  40. Chris Kidd

    regarding the adaptive reuse ordinance in LA’s downtown:

    LA had a ton of empty and abandoned mid-rise buildings in the historic core of downtown (read: east of bunker hill highrises, adjacent to skid row) that had previously housed office space and light manufacture, and were thus zoned for those two uses. Businesses didn’t want to relocate there because of the seedy nature of the area and the because the buildings would need a lot of rehab to make them attractive to modern business or even to get them up to code. As such, some artists started to lease out some spaces as illegal work/live lofts on commercial leases on the cheap (much like what happened in West Oakland). The city wanted to encourage bringing density and life into such a dilapidated district, but they couldn’t zone the buildings for any form of residential because bringing them up to code for multi-family housing would require insane parking requirements (like 2+ spaces per unit in a built out urban area for a building that has no parking).
    The adaptive re-use ordinance found a way around the parking requirements and also fooled around with the percentages for ‘live/work’ spaces to allow buildings in downtown to be converted for residential use.
    The proof’s in the pudding. The historic core of downtown is going through a huge revitalization. Downtown, for so long considered a ghost town, is becoming node of activity that is spurring business, restaurants, shops, bars, and even new residential development.
    Redevelopment projects like this, and what’s going on in downtown Oakland, almost never pencil out exactly the way they’re put down on paper. The key question to ask, though, isn’t if it all turned out as planned. The question to ask is: are things better now than before we started? I’d say for both downtown Oakland and downtown LA, the answer is a resounding “yes”.

  41. Navigator

    I was watching KPIX last night and the theme of the story regarding the attack near the FOX Theater was an indictment on Oakland and the safety of the Uptown area. The reporter interviewed a young African American man. This is a tactic which is usually used in Oakland by the SF media. The young urban male stated ” This is Oakland, it aint safe anywhere.” (Can you imagine a resident in San Francisco making an off the cuff statement indicting the entire city of SF and that clip not ending up in the editing room floor?) The reporter then interviews the owner of the book store across the street from the Fox who says ” we’re on the edge. You go two blocks that way and you’re in a bad area.” Keep in mind that this is the same person quoted in an article in the Chronicle who stated that she’s been in the area for 15 years and has never felt unsafe. The reporter then goes on ” many new upscale restaurants have opened up in the area but it hasn’t helped, in fact, it’s gotten worse” The reporter also claimed that the owner of the book store who was quoted in the Chronicle that “she’s never felt unsafe in 15 years”,now told her that “it’s gotten worse”

    It seems to me that these SF media “journalists” piece together and edit interviews to get the exact message that they want to get across to the audience. In this case, the message was clear. The message was that Oakland is full of crime, uptown is dangerous, and crime in the area is getting worse.

    Is this true? Is crime in Uptown a serious problem and is it getting worse? I’d be interested in hearing from people who work, socialize and live in the area.

  42. Naomi Schiff

    My business started on 17th Street between Telegraph and Broadway in 1981. We moved to Broadway near 19th after 16 years. Two years ago, we moved to 12th and Franklin. In that time the worst injury incidents were mostly terrible traffic collisions at 17th Street. Once around 1988 in our building at 17th, a robber went after our upstairs neighbor, a deaf architect, and a hat and a selectric typewriter (for you oldtimers!) were stolen. With the police, we nabbed the miscreant. At that time there were two or three pawn shops in the area. Also in the 80s or early 90s there was an attempted holdup; someone drew a gun on my husband in a parking lot behind the Fox but no injury. Around 1997 a purse was stolen from our place on Broadway. From news reports: there was a knifing in front of a nightclub called @17 in recent years, and a fight at Jimmie’s led to a homicide one night, late at night, also in the old Fox parking lot that is no longer there. Both these places closed shortly after. That’s all I can remember. These incidents cover our office of 7 to 10 people, from 1981 to 2008, 27 years. Most recurrent crime: auto battery theft. (Once, disgustingly, followed by a parking ticket!) Overall, for a big gritty city, I would say most of the time we felt safe, and that normal street savviness was generally sufficient. We came and went at all times of day and evening, and occasionally worked very late at night.

  43. Ralph

    When being interviewed by a reporter, one needs to choose words carefully as they will always run with the story they want.

    If I recall correctly, the store owner said that type of violence is atypical for the day, but has on occasion occurred during the late evening hours (after closing). I am inclined to agree with her. (The beatdown essentially happened in front of the School for the Arts; I am surprised that no student saw it.) That is not to say that crime does not occur during the day. You can check crimestoppers for more details.

    Unnatural deaths are rare. I know of 2 between 2008 and today. One was following a NYE party, and the other, I believe, was the result of a drug deal gone bad. I am aware of some hand to hands, thefts, assaults, congregations of professional women, and threats with a deadly weapon. With the exception of the gathering of professional women, all of these incidents were after the midnight hour.

    Telegraph would certainly be helped by better lighting around BART and more feet on the street.

  44. Navigator

    Ralph, wrote “When being interviewed by a reporter, one needs to choose words carefully as they will always run with the story they want.”

    Ralph, you hit the nail on the head. Oakland residents and Oakland officials need to be careful what they say to the SF media. They will edit what you say and take things out of context to get their “Oakland is dangerous” message across to Bay Area residents.

    My impression of the Uptown area is that it’s much safer now then when we had nothing there except SEARS and those massive hulking concrete double decker garages and endless parking lots. Unfortunately, the SF media will spin things their way to keep people scared of Oakland.

    It also seems to me that the Oakland Police Department has a too cozy and comfortable relationship with the SF media. By contrast, the San Francisco Police Department keeps everything close to the vest. I still haven’t seen footage held by the SF Police Department of the beating of that MUNI driver. And, I don’t know of a regular spokesperson for the SF Police Department. Oakland on the other hand, has a male officer and more recently a female officer who have enough camera time to be considered local celebrities.

    Watch what you say Oakland. What you say, can, and WILL, be edited and taken out of context while being held against you in the court of public opinion.

  45. Naomi Schiff

    And by the way, do patronize Bibliomania if you like eccentric old books! Jean and Darryl have held the fort on that corner for a long time, and they have a meticulously kept collection of curiosities. They were formerly located in the Pardee Building, where 250 Frank Ogawa admin. building stands today, and are among the few survivors of a group of co-located bookstores that were chased out to make way for the new city building, after the earthquake.

  46. livegreen

    To contrast the current top link in the News section, here’s a link to an interview by Aimee Allison with John Russo: http://www.kpfa.org/john-russo/morning-show

    He mostly does a good job supporting it, the only thing he misses answering is defending the success of such actions elsewhere. Along those lines it’s confusing to me how both supporters and opponents use Long Beach to support their arguments. It seems difficult for it to be both…

  47. livegreen

    It’s interesting that Aimee infers the City’s priorities are on financing Police and not prevention & intervention. With all the OFCY & M-Y programs we’ve financed, how can she even pretend that statement is based on fact and not her own personal opinion?

  48. Ralph

    LG, I believe part of the problem with the Oakland GI haters is they tend to look at GIs in general and not the Oakland one specifically. The haters also have an idea of what they think a GI will accomplish which tends to differ widely from the actual objective.

    In JR’s defense, I think Oakland GI differs from many other GIs in that it is narrowly tailored so it is not like others which were broad strokes. Second, GIs do not by themselves decrease crime, but are but one tool a PD can use to minimize a criminal enterprise.

    Rule number one about being a radio talk show host why let something small, like facts, get in the way of good story. It is the one thing that the far right and far left have in common.

  49. livegreen

    Agreed. You’re either for it or you’re against it.

    It’s amazing how some of the callers question Russo on subjects he already answered. Why bother with answers? I’m surprised they even bothered listening to the interview. Or maybe they didn’t…

  50. len raphael

    the council members are not giving any cover to Batts or Russo. I see no sign that JB, JQ, or RK want the GI to succeed. If it succeeds they’ll say they worked for it “behind the scenes”.

  51. Ralph

    Len, you have identified the key problem with our council members. No one wants to lead including those who would seek the office of mayor. at some point, you need to take a position that may not be popular but is right. Of course, if someone does those of us here waiting for it to happen may die from the shock.

  52. livegreen

    Most people in CA are very nice. But the ones who speak up will accuse somebody else of all types of things. Or worse yet, go & riot. The CCM are scared of anything that even has the potential of pissing anybody off. Better yet being accused of racists, even if it’s gang-bangers doing the name calling.

    What I don’t get is even when they can support two prominent AfAm’s who support the GI, they still don’t do it. WTF? I mean, the cover is right there. A GI supported by two AfAm leaders and it’s still called racist? Talk about an empty threat.

    Maybe that’s why Larry Reid was so pissed off at the CC BRT session.

  53. Ralph

    LG, in addition they don’t want to upset to upset the white folk who think that this is yet another form of whitey oppressing darkie.

    You know, if I were LR, I think I would be a thorn in the side until some of these people picked up the clue phone. Call me crazy, but I am willing to bet all of the anti-GI councilmembers support restraining orders on the abusive spouse; yet, they are against restraining 15 specificed individuals from conducting a criminal enterprise and terrorizing a predominately black neighborhood.

    So it is okay to protect a white woman from an abusive white male, but it is wrong to protect a black community from a multiracial gang conducting a criminal enterprise.

  54. Born in Oakland

    Wonder how Perata stands on this issue? Bet I can guess where JQ and RK are coming from or did they already vote? You know, it”s hard to watch the Council meetings from beginning to end. You gotta be a real policy wonk and it interferes with my banjo practice.

  55. Ralph

    BiO, 2 weeks ago Perata was firmly against a curfew. On GI, I am only guessing but given his stance on curfew it stands to reasons he isn’t for GI. If curfews and injunctions become reality and are an effective, I can guarantee you he will say he worked behind the scenes to make it a reality.

  56. We Fight Blight

    Councilmember Kaplan, the North Oakland Gang Injunction is an important and controversial issue for North Oakland and the City. As someone who is exploring a Mayoral run, do you support the Gang Injunction? If so, why? If not, why? Please be specific. Do you think these efforts are important in getting tough on crime or are there more important ways to address crime? Interested to know your position. Thanks.

  57. Steve Lowe

    Marcus Foster was assassinated by the SLA (using cyanide-tipped billets, no less, to ensure that this scourge of freedom should die) for suggesting a dress code for OUSD students so that they could be differentiated from the gang members, dope dealers, malcontents, and other nonessential campus klingons. The ensuing suspension of civil liberties for any number of people all over the state helped consolidate the ascent of the right, and the question arises as to what sort of preventative measures, like gang injunctions, can we invoke now to assure that our current flirtation with outright lawlessness doesn’t erupt into another outburst of outright open warfare in Oakland streets – which many would argue is actually the case right now, with bullets lodged in just about every house on some blocks.

    ACLU is a great organization, champions of free speech, etc.; but no one ever bats a thousand, and they’d be whiffed this time at the plate if they actually believe that opposition to an injunction directed at known criminal families somehow equates to a just and necessary fight for everyone’s supposed civil liberties. The argument doesn’t wash when little kids are being hit and even killed by stray bullets. And if we fail to employ this apt legal tool and enable Batts to pursue the bad guys right now when he’s identified who they are, where they hang and how to get them off the streets, then what will we have to sacrifice later on when they’re even worse and more out of control than they already are? More freedoms, more justice, more of what’s left of what little security we have right now – or maybe just a few more kids?